So I woke up this morning and looked over at Mila in her crate and her snout/nose/upper lip area is HUGE. The only thing I could think of is the border collie I had growing up used to snap at bees and they would sting him and his lips would swell up but I didn't see her trying to eat any bees yesterday. She'll usually find a bug or a grasshopper to jump on in the grass and shove her whole nose down in the grass or in a hole but she didn't do that yesterday either. I wondered if she chomped on the bones in her chicken wrong yesterday but there's no puncture wounds on her gums. I know she can't be allergic because she's been eating chicken for 4 days and has been just fine. Am I totally losing my mind? This literally showed up overnight.

This is what her nose normally looks like:


And this is what her nose looks like this morning:


Trying not to freak out and rush to the vet for a $200 visit over nothing, but I really don't know what she could have done to swell up like this?? Especially in her crate overnight???

I guess my question is could this be from the bones in her chicken yesterday, she just chomped on them wrong? Or is it more likely she snapped a bee when I wasn't looking and she got stung?

Wow when you said swelled up i was thinking a little bump.. But wow! Umm i dont know anytjing about situations like that but i would defintly take her to the vet.. Wow good luck i hope everything is ok. Please keep posted

Lol no, when I say swelled up I mean swelled the f**k up. I'm kind of at a loss, I'm trying to wait an hour or two to see if it goes down at all but I have a feeling we'll be at the vet before lunch. Her whole gums are swollen, all the way back not just in the front. I'm not really an advocate for the vet, I usually either wait to see if the problem persists or if I can't fix it on my own but idek about this one. She either snapped a bee and is allergic, or a wasp got a hold of her. it's hurting my feelings though her little nose is so pitiful.

Im not trying to make you worry and i could be wrong.. But i think i would just take her.. If the swelling gets worse it might give her trouble breathing.

I'm on the phone with the vet right now. They're not slammed today so we're gonna head over there now. I did shove a benadryl down her throat but I know there's no way that's enough to help this.

...............I just remembered pest control came yesterday. But that's dumb cause there's no way their stuff is harmful to animals?? Oh jesus idek I'm just gonna go to the vet and hope it's nothing serious.

Years ago we had a dog that got stung by something. We didn't know it at the time. He was in the yard and started screaming bloody murder and wouldn't stop. Lip was horribly swollen. Ended up taking him to the vet. He ended up being okay but the vet had to give him an injection of steroids or antihistamine, I don't remember which.

Good luck, I hope everything turns out okay! Let us know how it goes.

My first thought was the bones in her chicken, that she just poked herself really good. Last time I went to the dentist I had a hole in my gums and the dentist said I just chomped on a chip wrong. No big deal. But she doesn't have any punctures or scratches or anything that suggests that. So my next thought was a bee or wasp sting. They are buzzing around our balcony right now and we are out there alot. Just weird it didn't swell up until sometime in the middle of the night..

Yeah, I would think if she got stung it would have swelled up right away. I know I have when I've been stung lol!

Oh for!! Just got to the vet and the swelling has gone down already.

Annnnd here comes the anti-raw lecture.

Was your dog showing any pain at all? From the pictures her nose looks huge...probably allergic to something.

She was itching it on the carpet a little but no pain. I poked and pulled and messed with it to look around and see what was going on and she let me. I gave her a benadryl and by the time we got to the vet the swelling had gone down. I guess she just got stung yesterday.

Glad she's okay. She's so cute!

*Edit - maybe it was a spider bite or something inside the house. Or maybe a wasp got in somehow and you didn't notice.

You know, I wondered if a spider got her in the middle of the night. If a wasp got in I would know cause the cat would have gone crazy trying to catch it. She may have just gotten stung yesterday when I left her with my husband. I feel like I would have noticed cause she probably yelped but he may have just thought she was playing cause she talks so much when she plays. He's never had a dog before so he doesn't understand alot of things :/

Thank you! And I'm glad she's okay too, thank you!! It's nice to have moral support We'll be going to get some bee and wasp killer so hopefully they won't be hanging around making a nest.

Glad she's ok.

heather.jane19 wrote:

Annnnd here comes the anti-raw lecture.

From us? No. From the vet? Almost certainly. "Kibble is safer." Yeah right, if I wanted to be totally safe I would not drink beer and neither would my dogs.

Glad the swelling went down. Of course it would go down after you committed to the vet visit (Doc, I swear I had a cough this morning.)The pest control stuff may not be toxic but anyone can have a reaction to a chemical. I'd say no prob with the pest stuff if the dog does not react again at home. We keep generic antihistamines in the first aid kit.

I keep bendryl in my car, my purse and my house just in case something like this happens. I have a very sensitive female too. Don't worry about the raw, I'm sure it was a bug bite. Was she otherwise okay? No lethargy or vomitting?

No she was fine otherwise. I'm sure she either got stung multiple times or was allergic to whatever stung her for her to swell up that bad. I now have a very large bottle of benadryl and may follow your lead and keep it in the car too.

Epimetheus wrote:

heather.jane19 wrote:

Annnnd here comes the anti-raw lecture.

From us? No. From the vet? Almost certainly. "Kibble is safer." Yeah right, if I wanted to be totally safe I would not drink beer and neither would my dogs.

Glad the swelling went down. Of course it would go down after you committed to the vet visit (Doc, I swear I had a cough this morning.)The pest control stuff may not be toxic but anyone can have a reaction to a chemical. I'd say no prob with the pest stuff if the dog does not react again at home. We keep generic antihistamines in the first aid kit.

I just saw this?? Idk why! Yes the anti raw lecture actually wasn't from the vet, she approved it. I was shocked! She did tell me to get the frozen patty things that have vegetables and fruits in them and said something about salmonella but otherwise she gave us the "okay" because she knows that Mila won't eat otherwise. And she won't. Luckily I noticed the swelling had gone down before we went in and paid for the check up, the vet just came out and talked to me for a minute. The lecture was from the girl at the desk, telling me that RAW chicken bones will splinter in her esophagus and kill her and blah blah. I said "...yeah that's only cooked chicken bones" 'Oh no ma'am, that's any chicken bones. [insert shocked and dismayed face here]' I just smiled and nodded my head and said "oh okay." Moron. I was just like hmm, okay well she's been eating them for five days and it hasn't killed her yet. Not to mention that I know a good 20,000 strong people that have multiple dogs on raw that feed bones. NOT to mention, I'm pretty sure the wolf (where all dogs descended from) has been hunting down and eating whole prey for oh, idk, EVER. But thanks for your unsolicited advice! I'll be sure to call you next time I don't want the check-in girl at the vet's office's opinion.