Katie, I apologized to you more than once. a quality breeder will never breed a sick dog. If you got this breeder shut down, then indeed she was not a good breeder. Amy explained the lawsuit issue and makes sense. I sincerely did not want to upset you, however, it is a possibility that you should think about. It does not mean you love your dog less, it is to encourage you to understand the dynamics of dog breeding and what a bad breeder can actually do to offspring. This situation that you are in, says to me, that there is underlying issues than just a husky being pent up. many of the dogs on this forum are rescues, and come from not the greatest of breeders. Many have AKC papers stating they are pure, when they investigate, get the answer well yea there was this other male dog around. It is a fact of life that I can attest to, and Amy with a rescue can attest to. There is a reason why this person bred a sick dog, and that is to fool people into buying their dog, who is sick, if the dog is sick, it's because the breeder is breeding poor quality dogs. My dog is a poorly bred dog, and under 1 year of age she was a total lunatic. She also has severe separation anxiety, and issues with eating. Why? Because she was poorly bred. Amy's dog is a rescue, why do you think there are so many huskies in rescues? Because many are poorly bred and the owner gets the,m and takes them to puppy classes, and other classes, and then one day bam their dog is out of control. I am not saying your dog will or is, I am saying, that poorly bred dogs are much more difficult to deal with than most huskies coming from a quality breeder. Please have an open mind. There are plenty of people who would like to help, me, Amy, and Jenn just to name a few, and guess what even Jenn's dog is from a rescue.

So back to the original issue. Your dog is being a bratty teenager with way too many freedoms. She will make you work to make her tired. By allowing her to do what she wants, when she wants will result in a hyper dog. at about 2 years of age she should settle down some, but not unless you limit her freedom. It has not as much to do with not enough exercise, as much as it has to do with her being allowed too much freedom. The only other option is to ask your vet is any of the medication she is on can make certain dogs hyper. I would place a bet with any member on here, that has a dog that doesn't settle down and sleep with that much exercise at least 6 or 7 hours straight. There must be an underlying issue, that you haven't figured out yet.

Again please, do not misunderstand my questions, or my reasoning. It is heartbreaking to know that you paid money for a dog that you think is one thing and ends up being something else. I have a dear friend who paid good money for her AKC husky, only to find out there was another male on property, and some of the litter is pure and some of the litter is not. I am not saying this is so for you. Like me, I seen Miya's mom and dad, they both "looked" pure, but her momma wasn't . It happens every day. Understanding why your dog acts the way they do, is the biggest hurdle you will cross. Once you do, it will be far easier, to settle her down, and also to expect, certain issues along the way. Like my girl and food. I also understand bad vets. My girl wasn't spayed properly, so now she goes into heat and has false pregnancies.

So please don't be angry at me. I truly understand to an extent what you are going through.

Sigh. Something tells me you missed what I've been saying. She spent a year of her life curled up in a ball watching all out other dogs play. With swollen bloody paws she couldn't use. She had open sores. She didn't feel good all she could do was sleep, and all I could do was what I was told to do via the awful vet I had. She's pure bred husky yes. I have her breeder under investigation with AKC but they're leaning more towards the Stud being the issue and the woman I went through was just as clueless as I was. She has been a breeder for 15 years. akc certified. I feel horrible for having her being the one under investigation. She only has females, and while others had the same issues as I it was after she'd started using another AKC breeder who had the studs. While I don't want to blame I feel like she should've investigated the new studs breeders history before she used them. I hate to ruin someone's life and income. Ya know?

My husky don't have any underlying issues as far as medically goes. She's prefeftlt healthy as far as demodex. I didn't come here for anyone to try and tell me stuff I already know the real answeres to. I'm well aware of poor breeding conditions, my sister runs a rescue and has had over 400 dogs in her care in the past 6 years. I'm also affiliated with rescues around here myself, and help my fired with her rescue. I also pull animals out of shelters and find the fosters.

Where are you getting she has to much freedom? She trained, works with a trainer when I'm away, simply because the trainer has been a lifelong frond of my family. She's highly intelligent and I don't think quick commands are going to solve it. While I will continue to use them. I leave her outside to play? Because she doesn't want to stay inside? Neither does my 8 year old husky, or 11 year old jack Russel. Why? Because our dogs aren't house dogs, they come in for bedtime and when it's too cold. I take the huskies on extremely long walks, because the only one needs to keep her joints moving.

Meanwhile I'll be leaving this website now, so if anyone can let an administrator know to remove this thread that's be great. I don't come for people to tell me I don't know what's wrong with my dog when I clearly know everything about her down to the color of her urine. I just gave a back story on why she's so feisty now she didn't play for a year. She hardly even talked for me. I thought I was going to lose her. Now she just feels better and is making up for a year of lost time, this is all knew to her.. I regret coming for ideas. I'm tried of peoplearning who come at me over her sickness when you clearly haven't delt with it or seen her suffer... I'll just let her be a 1 year old and I'll figure out a way to wear her out myself. Looks like I did that today actually since she's been asleep since 11pm now 3am... Thank you to those who didn't feel the need to tell me what's actually wrong with my dig because I know nothing. Thank you for the idea of the walkybike?? I'll have to check that out.

MiyasMomma wrote:

Many have AKC papers stating they are pure, when they investigate, get the answer well yea there was this other male dog around. It is a fact of life that I can attest to, and Amy with a rescue can attest to.

Renee - please do not quote me as attesting to something I have not attested to. She has said her dog is a pure breed and you should let it go at that.

My rescue was seized for neglect, not given up because of behavior issues.

Katie - I hope you don't leave. Renee speaks for herself, not me.

Here is a link to show you the walky dog:

https://www.itsahuskything.com/t15422p20-just-need-some-advice-or-tips#232530

I like that it is on the side so I don't have to worry about whether puppy knows directional commands and it has a sort of bungie piston sort of thing that absorbs a lot of shock from the dog giving me stability on the bike. Just ocurred to me - she would have to wear a harness for this - I don't know how you or your vet feel about that at the moment.

I'm only back because amymeme reached out personally to me. First, please always excuse my typos in my posts before anyone jumps the gun I can't even legibly type. I do think use my laptop for anything but school most of the time.

However, yes I know my baby is 100% Husky. The bitch came from a line of show dogs. I've got the legitamate from the AKC papers, not fake papers. I've obvisoly stayed in close contact with AKC since the demodex broke out on her shortly after she came home with me. Yes it'd true others have had the same issue with this occurring with their babies from her. None of them were bold enough to confront her of the AKC about it they just thought they were unfortunate and treated it as I am doing. Lucky for them they lived in bigger cities and not my little farm Town area of southwest Virginia. I took it upon myself to get in contact with precious buyers because she had a little forum set up for her buyers, and I essentially creeped and stalked posts to get names to look up. We're all from the same time frame of her switching to a new breeder studing out their huskies . ALSO AKC certified, or was.

However we will never know if somewhere in there they both got screwed because someone wasn't careful to not breed a husky who had suffered demodex and didn't follow standard breeding protocol to simply not breed. It can be genetic unfortunately.

I have had DNA tests on both of my huskies mainly because my 8 year olds father is the size of an Alaskan mal. I had my doubts. For my little girl in question it came with all the blood work already being done on her. Like I previously stated only females were on the 100+acer farm she came from. She brought studs in.

Also go say MDR1 isn't an issue for huskies, it is all white footed dogs are at risk for it.

Thanks for the link! She's fine in a harness, as silly as it seems she's wearing sweaters right now so she doesn't get cold, and they give her a confidence boost, where she's lacking fur. True story she won't leave my room till I put it on her now I think she's embarrassed of being naked. So the harness actually goes over her sweater instead of under. It's a Web master. It's really easy on her.

Glad you're not leaving

I was just joking with hubby yesterday...should we get a doggy coat for Ami for the winter...I'll bet with no fur she is really chilly. I wonder if she will still insist on her sweater once her fur grows back in. And probably looks scrawny - Ami looks huge and fat with his wooly coat but when he gets wet I always think he's underweight.

We just took a trip from up here in NY through Virginia (we did the Skyline Drive - breathtaking scenery!) then parts of the Blue Ridge Trail to Asheville. The foliage was at peak - lovely country down that way.

Haha they're super cute in sweaters! I'm probably going to have to invest in snow booties if her paws don't grow more fur back by the first snow! I just have some cheap ones that protect them cause they're sensitive right now. It's really seems like a whole new world for her in such a short time. Grass was an interesting concept on her little paws once she regained feeling in them instead of just pain with every step. Meanwhile she looks extremely underweight and malnurished you can see every rib and her spin like there's nothing there(thankfully she's got this body hawk thing going on so she has fur covering it) I'll post some pictures later when I get on my computer so you can see her in her sweater. She had a costume for Halloween she refused to let me take off for 4 days after Halloween. Lol every time I tried she'd run, and she pouted when I finally got it off. I bet that was a gorgeous drive, I love my mountains that's for sure!

I failed to mention she isn't underweight and malnurished. She just looks it. She's a whopping 48ibs of love. Just no muscle bulk.

Very interesting...I looked up the "white feet, don't treat" and it really was the standard for many years until recently. So any vet that isn't really current is likely still using that practise. So sorry you had to go through all that. And poor puppy (did you tell us her name and I've forgotton?)

I've wanted to try booties for Ami in the winter because he gets these enormous ice balls between his toes but I'm fairly certain he'll pull them off...

Yeah, old school vets are all about the white feet thing when it comes to ivomec. I have to fight one of my vets all the time about giving ivomec to my two for heartworms. Long haired herding breeds are the only breeds it's ever been proven to bother unless someone is way overdosing.

We would love to see pictures of her even without all her hair. lol. Once she gets better and her hair comes back in it would make a great before and after.

Regarding the opening post I've heard some people swear by aroma therapy for helping them calm down. I've never used it but it could be worth looking into?

My parents put meeka in sweaters when it's chilly out. She likes them and plays outside longer. It's really cute lol.

Did you say Khaleesi was her name? Excited for pictures!

I did some reading on the MDR1 gene mutation. There is a list of breeds that are most likely to be affected - apparantly not all are the various collies - German Shepherds the one the stuck out most, then some whippet things and a couple of others. BUt one site said that these are the most common and the ones that have been identified - it is certainly possible for other breeds to have it, just not in the density that the herding breeds do and thus not identified yet. I suppose it is also possible for the gene to mutate de novo, thus without it being either parent having it, but I do not know that, that latter statement is just conjecture.

So - Khaleesi is her name? How did I miss that?

Amy, I've done some reading as this topic has progressed and - this is NOT aimed at any user here - it amazes me how many of the 'research' sites are making absolute statements. If I've learned nothing in my 68 years, it that about the time someone thinks they know everything there is to know about something the gods come along and put a twist into it just to keep life interesting.

Suffice it to say that I'm much more apt to accept the opinion of someone who phrases it "the most common breeds to date" or "those which have occurred in our research are" over someone who states the "only breeds that have <x.y.z> are."

And I too would appreciate the before and after pictures of this poor and lucky dog.

aljones wrote:

Amy, I've done some reading as this topic has progressed and - this is NOT aimed at any user here - it amazes me how many of the 'research' sites are making absolute statements.  If I've learned nothing in my 68 years, it that about the time someone thinks they know everything there is to know about something the gods come along and put a twist into it just to keep life interesting.

Suffice it to say that I'm much more apt to accept the opinion of someone who phrases it "the most common breeds to date" or "those which have occurred in our research are" over someone who states the "only breeds that have <x.y.z> are."

And I too would appreciate the before and after pictures of this poor and lucky dog.

Amen, Al. When all my tests came back negative and I got better on gluten free even thoughsymptoms always return within 3 days of eating gluten, I argued with Wayne and my primary and my gastro - this can't be gluten intolerance - the tests are negative!!! All 3 just smiled and said..."they just haven't invented the test yet." And the radiologist said "Wayne, treat the patient, NOT the test." SIgh. I make such wonderful bread...

Seems odd that German Shepherds are suddenly showing up on lists. They never were before as they don't fit any of the old stereotypes used to determine who should avoid ivomec. I've had several gsd mix dogs and my family have had several pure breds and never had to avoid ivomec with them nor have them tested for this mutation. Did the article you read mention them more in reference to the faulted white gsd. The late fascination with the whites would explain how suddenly GSDs have been added.

TwisterII wrote:

Seems odd that German Shepherds are suddenly showing up on lists. They never were before as they don't fit any of the old stereotypes used to determine who should avoid ivomec. I've had several gsd mix dogs and my family have had several pure breds and never had to avoid ivomec with them nor have them tested for this mutation. Did the article you read mention them more in reference to the faulted white gsd. The late fascination with the whites would explain how suddenly GSDs have been added.

Not that I remember...but while the collies were in the 70% range, the GSD rate was around 5%  Damn, I should have cited the article - I'll have to go back through my history later tonight (I'm way behind on chores and need to "STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER!"  

EDIT: Also, from what I understand, but I will have to fact check this later, the heartworm preventive doses of ivermectin are ok for some, it's the high dose mange treatments that are the problem. And other drugs, too.

OK - here's a list of breeds affected by the MDR1 gene mutation and the approximate frequencies - I was off slightly on the GSD, it's 10%, not 5A%.  THis list is from the vet school that found the gene mutation and developed the test.

Note:

 The only way to know if an individual dog has the mutant MDR1 gene is to have the dog tested. As more dogs are tested, more breeds will probably be added to the list of affected breeds.

EDIT: OK so I had a brain fart...here is the link:

http://vcpl.vetmed.wsu.edu/affected-breeds