Ok so i am new to breeding and we decided to let our pups mate and have at least one litter before fixing them. They have tied twice now and my male is driving me crazy. He will not let my female out of his sight, in fact she can't get more than three feet from him. I'm sure it's because of her smell and his raging hormones, I was wondering if anyone has any advice that could help. I have considered increasing his exercise and adding an extra walk or two into the day for him to see if that helps. Any Advice?

Exercise might help, but he really needs to be away from the smell. Is there someone that can take him for a couple of days? If not, clean the whole house and keep her to one room and keep him on the opposite side of your home. Maybe in the garage.

You really should have consulted a breeding mentor before you ever attempted this. Are you ready for all the potential risks and complications of a pregnancy? Did you get your dogs hips and eyes checked so that you know you're not perpetuating genetic health problems?

ETA: If your pitapata tickers are accurate, you REALLY need to speak with a vet or a breeding mentor as soon as possible and stop all matings (on the offchance they didn't take). Your female is WAY too young to be breeding and so is your male. Your female's risk of complications is extremely high due to her age.

I'm going to stop there because the list could go on and to be honest, what's done is done. But I hope you have thick skin, because you're about to get an earful from this forum and so long as there is no rule breaking or name calling, the thread won't be shut down. What you have done is generally considered in the dog world to be incredibly irresponsible and unethical and it's a VERY heated topic on ANY internet forum. My suggestion to you would be to listen and try not to get offended because behind what people say is going to be advice that you should listen to.

The bottom line is that if you didn't know how to handle your dogs in the aftermath of mating, you really had no business breeding.

Members: It's done and the OP needs to move forward. Remember the rules. Keep it civil or this thread will be locked.

Belive me i understand that this is a heated topic, and Yes I did consult my vet and they have had all their tests and regular check ups prior to her reaching this heat. I have done alot of research and have talked to alot of people who breed long before this, I just simply was not prepared for my males reaction. I thought i was and i had a general jist of what to expect of their behavior. But seeing it first hand for the first time is something diffrent. Finacialy, and in every other aspect we are more than prepared for any outcome including complications. For the most part i feel that i have a good bead on things, like i said i was really just looking for any advice on "getting my males mind off things" I don't really want to have to seperate them completely as in sending him to a friends as they have never really been good about being seperated since we got them. I understand that alot of people are going to have opinions about this and many would not necessary agree, I only ask that whoever replies to this understands that while i am new to this I did alot of homework, reading and consulted my vet on numerous occasions. And while you can research all you like some things you just don't know to ask or research until it happens. Thank you for the imput Tori and the heads up that this could be an heated thread.

I don't mean this offensively, but I seriously question any vet who okayed a 14 month old female and a 10 month old male to breed. That is WAY too young. Proper hip testing can't even be done until they are 2 years old... so how could they have been checked out fully and okayed to breed? Your female's life is risked a LOT by breeding her this young. If she survives the pregnancy, she's also risking health complications for the rest of her life. Her hips aren't even fully formed yet. The birth could injure her.

So while I appreciate you did your homework, I don't think you spoke to anyone ethical or reputable about breeding if they told you this was a good idea. I know how much you care for your dogs, and for that reason, I don't think you would have knowingly made a decision that would risk either of their lives like this.

My true and honest suggestion is to stop all matings and hope that neither of them took. If you're truly set on this course of action, wait until they are older and in the meantime, research a truly reputable breeder in your area (we can help you find one) and study with them until they are old enough. Besides being too young, they may also not be breeding material. Not every dog is meant to be bred.

Again, I know it's done and you might possibly have a litter on your hands, and you're not here to hear anything but how to help with your male's frenzy... I get that. But I want you to also understand how much of a risk you are taking with your female's life.

Speaking from a behavior and training side you didn't foresee this coming?


I've seen Chows break a barn wall down to get to a bitch in heat. Members here have shared stories of random dogs appearing in their back yard during those times. Dog who walked hours to return to an area they once lived and remembered a dog would be ready for them. I believe there was even a story of a male jumping through a window to get at a bitch.



I also wouldn't consider any dog I had, adequately trained at 8 months of age. I'm sorry I just wouldn't. It would just be stepping into it's teenage phase, and I would have to double down on the training. I'd rather have as much control over my dogs as possible if I wanted to go this route and I don't consider these two old enough for my liking. Again that's just me.


Also I can understand you not wanting to separate them, I hate separating my girls too.... But what did you do prior to this when your female was in heat exactly? You would have had to separate them at some point I would think (I hope), so I'm unsure why suddenly now it's a problem?

Get them space between them... Let them both calm down, and reintroduce later on. It really is the best course of action right now.

~Chris~

Honestly, your male is going to be a hot mess so long as the female is in the general vicinity no matter what you do. I would do whatever I could to get him away until she's no longer in heat. See if a friend or family member can keep him for a while. And don't think that a friend down the street will cut it, he needs to be AWAY from her.

Thank you Chris and Valerie,
We have a family friend who lives in town that has a husky who is pretty much part of our pack. They are over here several times a week for play dates and my kids have been over there several times. They we have a standing offer for dog sitting with each other so i think i will be giving them a call to see if they can take Loki for a week or so until Kiska is out of heat. I really appreciate everyones input. And thank you for being nice about it.

I'm not really sure why your vet told you it would be okay to breed such a young girl, as Tori said, the chances of complications are now really high - plus since those hip plates aren't fully grown in yet, there may be very costly hip treatments in your future - and it doesn't help that Sibes are already known for hip issues.

If you are dead set on breeding, there are many people here who can point you to a more than reputable breeder to mentor you. I noticed you said you've talked to people that breed their dogs long before you bred your two - may I ask who it was that you spoke to? Was just another person who bred the two that they own, or was it more along the lines of somebody who breeds show or working dogs with a kennel etc?

As you can imagine, breeding is a very touchy subject here, and I realize you didn't ask for input on the actual breeding itself, so sorry I went off course.

Now, onto your question, you can try taking him for an extra walk a day, but honestly, I don't think it's going to do anything. He already knows what it's like to be tied, and believe you me, if humans were breeding twice a year (and only twice a year), I think we'd be in the same predicament. Even if it's just so no other males can get to her (if he feels territorial about her) and just that he constantly wants to breed (it's in their nature!), there really is no way until they're separated. Also, once they are separated, make sure the dog stays on leash since he will most likely try and get back to the female every single chance he gets.

The OP has been communicating with me via PM. She is going to reach out to a reputable breeder for guidance from here out.

If anyone has any other suggestions about her question, feel free to post them

What about a product such as Cholorophyll Concentrate, that can help reduce her scent ?? Nature's Farmacy sells such a product.

I am glad you are going to speak to a reputable breeder in the future. I don't want to enter a heated debate, but I am curious as to why you wanted to breed them "just once before we fixed them"?

Just curious what your thinking was on that and why?

Best of luck to you and your girl. I hope she is not hurt in any way by this breeding.