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mbarnard0429 Senior
Join date : 2011-08-07 Location : Michigan
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:59 pm | |
| Her coloring, on a day to day basis looks like this: http://www.kwestmals.com/AA_lt_sable.jpg
That's a mal, but sable is sable. |
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SolitaryHowl Puppy
Join date : 2012-10-30
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:08 pm | |
| - mheath0429 wrote:
All of her guard hairs are banded with multiple colors, if I can get a pic later I will. and she has red/orangey/beige undercoat (that is where all that red comes from) all over her body. She also has black points.
That's what Suka has too. A tan/reddish/beige undercoat, black tipped guard hairs (brown middle and white near the skin) Hm... Wow, that sable on that Mal looks almost exactly like the Suka's coat! EDIT: Found this off of huskycolors.com: - Quote :
- Sable dogs have a red, chocolate or orange undercoat (whereas wolf greys have a beige undercoat). Points (eye rims, nose and lips) are black. Individual guard hairs are banded (each strand has multiple colors). Also referred to as "black nosed reds".
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mbarnard0429 Senior
Join date : 2011-08-07 Location : Michigan
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:12 pm | |
| Only real way to know if genetic testing - I plan on doing it in the future. |
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Ericobeasto Senior
Join date : 2012-11-20 Location : Ohio
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:15 pm | |
| - mheath0429 wrote:
- Only real way to know if genetic testing - I plan on doing it in the future.
How expensive is that? And does a regular vet do that or is it a specialist? |
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SolitaryHowl Puppy
Join date : 2012-10-30
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:17 pm | |
| - Ericobeasto wrote:
- mheath0429 wrote:
- Only real way to know if genetic testing - I plan on doing it in the future.
How expensive is that? And does a regular vet do that or is it a specialist? I think a specialist has to do it...like a special lab with specialists (if that makes sense). Because DNA testing requires some equipment that probably wouldn't be available in their offices... |
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MyKeeonah Teenager
Join date : 2012-01-28 Location : OR
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:20 pm | |
| Alrighty then, what about this guy? lol
http://www.puppyfind.com/view_photo/?breed_id=99&list_id=d1u095ku76&img_id=i1vf84n6n14&back=%2Ffor_sale%2F%3Fbreed_id%3D99%26country%3D248%26state%3DOR%26page%3D1%26order_by%3Drand%26back%3D%252Fsearch%252F%253Fsubmit%253D1%2526str%253Dsiberian%252Bhusky%2526page%253D1&sid=96e33fb90578e4712182e04bb119c2e0 |
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SolitaryHowl Puppy
Join date : 2012-10-30
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:23 pm | |
| - MyKeeonah wrote:
- Alrighty then, what about this guy? lol
http://www.puppyfind.com/view_photo/?breed_id=99&list_id=d1u095ku76&img_id=i1vf84n6n14&back=%2Ffor_sale%2F%3Fbreed_id%3D99%26country%3D248%26state%3DOR%26page%3D1%26order_by%3Drand%26back%3D%252Fsearch%252F%253Fsubmit%253D1%2526str%253Dsiberian%252Bhusky%2526page%253D1&sid=96e33fb90578e4712182e04bb119c2e0 Could be. The face reminds me of an Agouti but the colour of the rest of the body is confusing me. More info (and pictures) of Agouti s here: http://www.huskycolors.com/agouti.html |
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Niraya Breeding Subject Moderator
Join date : 2011-08-30 Location : Easton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:23 pm | |
| Grey with a melanistic mask. Not a Siberian or at least not a purebred as they don't have melanistic masks. _________________
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mbarnard0429 Senior
Join date : 2011-08-07 Location : Michigan
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:25 pm | |
| http://vetgen.com/canine-coat-color.html
Check that link out! |
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mbarnard0429 Senior
Join date : 2011-08-07 Location : Michigan
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:28 pm | |
| That dog looks like a Norwegian Elkhound .... |
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Niraya Breeding Subject Moderator
Join date : 2011-08-30 Location : Easton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:38 pm | |
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tiffany Teenager
Join date : 2009-07-06 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:10 pm | |
| Both Keno and Klutch are registered as agoutis. Keno is almost identical to what your pup looks like. He had the brown/cream hue to his coat and the he went through the crazy dark/light/dark/light phase with his coat changing. I would honestly say he is a wolf grey today, but I did see his sire and he looked very similar to the first picture Ceara posted above and his dam was a light red. He was the only one in his litter that was 'agouti' the others were reds and greys.
Klutch on the other hand. His sire was a black/white with no silvering/shading to him and his dam was also a light red. Again, Klutch was the only one to be 'agouti' and he looks very similar to his aunt who is an agouti as well. He is still growing and changing, but his coat is a lot more dirtier looking than Keno's has ever been. He has, as someone said, the look that he laid in urine or tea. I have had numerous people ask me if he needed a bath. He also doesn't have any bright white markings, his are more dilute or cream. So by my guess, Klutch could be an agouti.
Huskies like to keep us guessing with their coats. |
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theredofshaw Puppy
Join date : 2012-07-05 Location : OKC, OK
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:37 pm | |
| Ziva had a lot as a puppy like most...not entirely sure what she's going to turn out to be still (has a lot of brown in spots), but judging by the rest of her, we think she'll be wolf gray/white |
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arooroomom Husky Collector
Join date : 2009-12-13 Location : South Fl
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:03 pm | |
| That red is gorgeous. Wow. _________________ Force Free Training ThreadCheyenne, Mishka, Mickey, Rodeo, & Odin Are you a Husky owner in South Florida?! Join our facebook meetup group! |
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Niraya Breeding Subject Moderator
Join date : 2011-08-30 Location : Easton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:37 pm | |
| - arooroomom wrote:
- That red is gorgeous. Wow.
The pictures I posted? The red and the pup (middle picture) are half sisters. The dark girl (first picture) is their mother. _________________ |
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arooroomom Husky Collector
Join date : 2009-12-13 Location : South Fl
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:02 am | |
| How old? Completely stunning. _________________ Force Free Training ThreadCheyenne, Mishka, Mickey, Rodeo, & Odin Are you a Husky owner in South Florida?! Join our facebook meetup group! |
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Niraya Breeding Subject Moderator
Join date : 2011-08-30 Location : Easton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:04 am | |
| Rose (red) is I believe 2 (or turning 2). Echo is 1 (middle). and Wylie (top) passed away. _________________ |
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Ericobeasto Senior
Join date : 2012-11-20 Location : Ohio
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:16 pm | |
| Ok so here is a updated pic of my pup at 5 weeks old.. It really shows his coat good. so from this picture what do you guys think? Agouti or something else? |
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Hayden_69 Senior
Join date : 2011-12-26 Location : Alexandria, VA
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:33 pm | |
| I think he looks like an agouti now, but I have a feeling his coat is going to lighten up and fade. I hope he stays agouti (one of my favorite coat colors). |
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Ericobeasto Senior
Join date : 2012-11-20 Location : Ohio
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:35 pm | |
| i do know that his moms solid tan spots did fade when she hit 2 about but i dont know if the rest of his coat will cause the mom is unique looking.. back except tan markings on her face |
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Callicocat Puppy
Join date : 2012-05-07 Location : Seattle WA
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:55 pm | |
| My guy is agouti/ white according to the breeder. His white has also turned into more and more tan/cream undercoat. But here is a picture of him at 4 months: 7 weeks 4 months 9 months I know his mom was a red and his dad was agouti Your pup looks adorable! |
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Niraya Breeding Subject Moderator
Join date : 2011-08-30 Location : Easton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:00 pm | |
| A banded coat is not necessarily significant of agouti or not. My black and white's hair is banded. See to me your pup is a wolf gray or a sable (would depend on what the "tan" color of the undercoat really is) with a dark face. But it also goes back to me saying how most people assume that if a dog has a dark face/mask - it's an agouti _________________ |
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Jennet&Embry Senior
Join date : 2010-09-15 Location : Eau Claire, Wisconsin
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:17 am | |
| Honestly, I wouldn't classify any of the dogs aside from the ones that Ceara posted as Agouti. There's a lot more to them then the banded hairs. |
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Kavik_the_Havoc Teenager
Join date : 2012-12-23 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:35 am | |
| Kavik is an AKC puppy registered as an agouti, and was listed as one by the breeder. His mom's dam was an agouti/white (Where I assume the gene comes from) while his mom is mostly black with some white. His dad is gray/white and his lineage doesn't list an agouti. I'm not sure if both parents need to carry the gene. Kavik is 8 weeks old right now and I expect his fur will go through a lot of changes. It's hard to tell from the photo, but his paws are an off white, almost a very light yellowish cream color mixed with flecks of black. It looks like his paws are always dirty. You can't see from the front, but the back of his head and ears are reddish, plus a few bits on his legs.
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Ericobeasto Senior
Join date : 2012-11-20 Location : Ohio
| Subject: Re: Anyone own a Agouti? Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:48 am | |
| He is soooo cool looking!!!! Congrats!! |
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