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Seven months
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Ok yeah, that's a classic awkward body age that'll last for a while. It takes time to grow into ears.
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Oh okay, good to know XD
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Huskies are not very attractive, from a conformation standpoint, through adolescence.  They have weird growth stages and spurts and lags.
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Each line varies quite a bit in the awkwards, but pretty much all of them have some variation of the awkward...Keegan hasn't gotten too gawky *yet* thankfully!


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Nice progression photos. He's very....necky at 7 months but even just 2 months later filled in so nicely Smile
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Your photos help a lot he looks great btw! People keep asking me of Miya is a mini husky..what the heck is a mini husku anyway?
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Thanks Smile I am really pleased with how Keegan is maturing. He's very balanced for a young dog- I can't wait for his chest to drop and his drive to mature...but beyond that he gives me goosebumps!
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GravityM wrote:
Your photos help a lot he looks great btw! People keep asking me of Miya is a mini husky..what the heck is a mini husku anyway?

I get that all the time, too, because of Layla's size -- and she's within standard! She's one inch below the top of the range for height for females, and she's at the lower end of the weight range. Many people don't realize that Huskies are actually medium-sized dogs, or sometimes they confuse them with Mals. Plus, lots of bad backyard breeding is producing larger and larger "Huskies," whose structures cannot properly support all their weight. As I mentioned in the weigh-in thread, your girl is the perfect size for her age and will continue to grow in height and weight, and she'll start to have that less "awkward" juvenile look to her, too. Smile

I guess the closest thing to a true "mini-Husky" would be an Alaskan Klee Kai, but that's a different dog altogether. Razz
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Oh okay that explains it lol. The lady who said that apparently has showed sibes for years.. idk was just odd she said that, all I had to say to that was she's 7 months old..lol
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Hello again,

We were able to get a couple of other pix with better lighting, but not as many angles as before. In the second pic, I am holding back the puppies jaw a little too much, but I'm just wondering if anyone can tell anything from these pix, as to how Phoenix looks, for show potential. We are hoping to do conformation, as well as a lot of other stuff?

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angles on the stacked photos is poor to evaluate- appears straight in the rear, concerned short forearm. Short muzzle. is she from Livewire (Lauren House)?
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Thank you Huskymom09. Yes, she is from Livewires/Lauren House. Her sire is Livewires Chemical Romance - Rome and and dam is Topaz Red Sky at Night - Sky.

I saw one of her older half-cousins and the owner said she looked just like Phoenix when she was a puppy and she apparently outgrew a lot of the little stuff. I wonder if that will be the case with Phoenix, or if that is even possible? I apologize for the poor quality of pix. This little girl does not like to hold still long enough to get a good stacking pic. She is 10 weeks old today, so I'm guessing new pix may not be very helpful? We took the three pix on top at 9 weeks, since her 8 week pix were hard to evaluate as well. I'm thinking that may throw off the evaluation? At any rate, I appreciate your input.
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hello..
im new in this forum and i intereseting in this topic, i just got a new puppy and i want to know how she is in the senior eyes.

her name is Sheva. and im living in Indonesia.

here's some picture of her

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also why usually the champion siberian husky always get a dark eyes than a blue one? which is better?
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She looks very straight in the front, but well angulated in the rear- right now she lacks balance
She lacks stop (forehead rise) and her ears are oversized and lacking fur coverage, but her eyes are a nice shape and set. She has nice pigment and I like her foot shape.

As far as CH eyes, we see a wide variety of eye colors in the ring. The number 2 Siberian Bitch US is blue eyed, the recent Best Of Winner's at the National Specialty is bi-eyed...eyes that are proper shape, set, and more importantly than either would be proven health cleared for multiple generations are what we should be concerning ourselves with.
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thanks husky mom. the photo i posted is about more than 2 months old. i found her photo when she was on 2 months. maybe if you mind, you can help me again to identify my girl again, as you say that she is more difficult to identify that age.

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she is on the left bottom picture named candy. thankyou
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There isn't any photos in there that are evaluation quality in that batch. Sorry-
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There isn't any photos in there that are evaluation quality in that batch.  Sorry-


hi husky mom..

i have a plan to add another siberian husky, so i will breed my husky with the new one,and i dont want to break the conformation because of bad breeding (fault conformation), so what do you think about my husky? it is worth to breed or just add an another fault in this breed? she is 7 months old. thankyou before

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All of your pictures are taken at angles which make it very hard to evaluate her true conformation. You want to take your photos level with her and square to her body. Take the pictures directly perpendicular to her side and front and back to really get a solid evaluation.

More than just looks go into whether or not you should be breeding your dog though. What is her pedigree? The history of her parents? Were they show dogs? Race dogs? How is her genetic history? Her temperament? The temperament of the dog being bred to? I can't break down her conformation, others can do that, but I do know that in order to really answer if she is worth breeding there if a lot more information to consider. I understand you are in a different country? and what is acceptable breeding practices maybe different there, but here on the forum the general consensus is no breeding unless you race or show your dog professionally and successfully. And even then, perhaps not.

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All of your pictures are taken at angles which make it very hard to evaluate her true conformation. You want to take your photos level with her and square to her body. Take the pictures directly perpendicular to her side and front and back to really get a solid evaluation.

More than just looks go into whether or not you should be breeding your dog though. What is her pedigree? The history of her parents? Were they show dogs? Race dogs? How is her genetic history? Her temperament? The temperament of the dog being bred to? I can't break down her conformation, others can do that, but I do know that in order to really answer if she is worth breeding there if a lot more information to consider. I understand you are in a different country? and what is acceptable breeding practices maybe different there, but here on the forum the general consensus is no breeding unless you race or show your dog professionally and successfully. And even then, perhaps not.  




she is too hard to take the picture while she is standing.. lol here its the best i can get. this photo taken when she was 4 months
Im living on indonesia, and its a common thing to breed any dogs whether it is correct conformation or not.. and i thought that if she has a bad conformation, i wont breed her..

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She appears very straight in the front, steep shoulder angles, out of balance front to rear as her rear angulation appears better. Cow hocked though. Weak pasterns (font). Nice shape to the eye, out of proportionally large ears, nicely set though. Top line appears to be nice.

However there is a lot more to consider when considering breeding. Since this would be a home breeding (you own both the male and female). First I would evaluate both structurally. I would also evaluate how the pedigrees mesh. Temperament must be considered in both. Proper health testing (OFA hip and eye) of both potential candidates PLUS there needs to be a family history of health testing. Siberians have a plethora of eye disorders that are heritable and can present as late as 4-6 years of age which is why eye tests must be performed annually on any breeding potential candidate. If there is no family history of health testing, do not breed her. If you do not understand functional structure and the Siberian Husky Breed Standard, do not breed.
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Mishka is now 2 years and 2 months old. I don't think I will ever be able to get him to stack well. Thank goodness for squirrels. Wink Lol.

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She appears very straight in the front, steep shoulder angles, out of balance front to rear as her rear angulation appears better.  Cow hocked though.  Weak pasterns (font).  Nice shape to the eye, out of proportionally large ears, nicely set though.  Top line appears to be nice.  

However there is a lot more to consider when considering breeding.  Since this would be a home breeding (you own both the male and female).  First I would evaluate both structurally.  I would also evaluate how the pedigrees mesh.  Temperament must be considered in both.  Proper health testing (OFA hip and eye) of both potential candidates PLUS there needs to be a family history of health testing.  Siberians have a plethora of eye disorders that are heritable and can present as late as 4-6 years of age which is why eye tests must be performed annually on any breeding potential candidate.  If there is no family history of health testing, do not breed her.  If you do not understand functional structure and the Siberian Husky Breed Standard, do not breed.


thanks huskymom! her sire is son of one of famous kennel in USA (who surely have the proper health testing, and right now her dam is 7 years old. but i think they have no problem with hip and eyes.. what do you think about her cow hocked? because the last time i was checked her on x ray, the left rear hip bone is not bond/placed on the socket yet, but the opposite was ok. so while she is standing, i consider that she standing only on  3 legs, and the left rear hip is not proper her body weight.based on your experience, will she grow out of it? im doubt now to breed her. FYI now she is 7 months old
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I can't really comment on the conformation aspect, but I will mention briefly that if you do plan to breed her that you don't do it any time soon, at least not before she's 2 years old. Seven months is WAY too soon to breed a dog. Has she even had her first heat yet?
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