What are the registered names of the dam and sire?

Abby, I like Kay's earset. I'm a stickler on ears. Coat looks nice. The pictures aren't dead on for structure so it is very hard for me to comment on it - does she have a snap tail?

Olivia, I need mroe about Orion. How old? Dam and Sire information? Etc. Just to get the whole picture.

mheath0429 wrote:

Abby, I like Kay's earset. I'm a stickler on ears. Coat looks nice. The pictures aren't dead on for structure so it is very hard for me to comment on it - does she have a snap tail?

Yes she does, i can try to get some better pictures.

This is her tail. It's pretty fluffy. xD

Orion is 5 months old today an awkward age I know. He is from Melandar Summatime Symphony (Dam - NZ Grand Champion) and Kristari Firetruck (Sire - Imp USA & NZ Champion) his lines are prominently innisfree on his dams side with Chips Ahoy (great grand sire I think?) the most well known on that side and on his sire's side is all Kristari with Kristari Firecheif O'Tahluu his sire's sire.
I know one of his sisters has gone to a show family, but I also know that there can be a lot of variation in littermates so was just curious about how my boy would measure up. I will try and get some better images to post, what are the best angles for you to get a good idea?

I personally think Orion looks really nice, but I'm a big fan of Kristari, I love their heads and ears he also has a nice topline, I can't wait to see him in a few months when he grows into his ears and matures.

Tammi, how far back are the CH in the pedigree? Can you either scan it, or take a photo of it and upload it?

they are her fathers, father and grandfather i believe, I don't have my camera anymore today (fiance took it back to work for the night) lol

If you could get a good stacked picture that would be awesome.

Orion's pedigree, via sister Halo:

http://pawvillage.com/pedigree/pedigree.asp?ID=OTLZSW5C0C

That's it alright - sorry I didn't think of posing a link I was just trying to remember since I don't have his papers in front of me
I have had a look into some of the dogs in his line and I felt they were alright? Realistically though I have no idea I have never looked at a dog from a technical standpoint

Not bad lines at all, Lot of decent dogs in there.

I like him, but I'd rather look at him around 18 mos.

Certainly has the pedigree behind him.  I too like a lot of Kristari's stuff. I'd really like to see him around the year + mark as well.

Thanks its nice to have some opinions from people in the know
I personally think he is gorgeous (but don't we all think that of our furbabies?!) and I just adore his sire - Trucker is the dog who swayed me into the world of sibes so I am really hoping he grows up well

Here are some better pictures of Kay, she kept trying to sit down so it was hard to get her to stay put.







My sister had her hand under Kay's belly for this one, i think she was lifting a little to keep her from sitting.

Edited post - did not see new page.

I don't think I've ever gotten an opinion on Zoey, but I got a decent self stacked picture of her yesterday so I'll throw it out there. Obviously Zoey isn't fantastic, she's not from a great breeder, and not from any show lines but since I plan on getting a show male eventually I need to get my feet wet and have debated showing her in altered UKC. What do you guys think?

Can someone take a look at Kaia...just curious how she looks to others as I'm a little biased!

More pics...posted before I was done by accident

Can anyone tell me about kodas faults? And if he has any good features..Im never going to show him. Im just curiou.. Excuse the dirt on him he was about to get a bath when i took these pix. He found a mud puddle at the park lol..

Jennet&Embry wrote:

I don't think I've ever gotten an opinion on Zoey, but I got a decent self stacked picture of her yesterday so I'll throw it out there. Obviously Zoey isn't fantastic, she's not from a great breeder, and not from any show lines but since I plan on getting a show male eventually I need to get my feet wet and have debated showing her in altered UKC. What do you guys think?

Since no one did this for you, I'll take a stab at it.

I like her head and length of leg.

I feel she has a short neck and straight front/rear. I like a more angled dog. Tail set is high(?) And I like a little longer tail. She looks roached(?) In the picture but I can't decide if that's because of how her back feet are placed or not.

Ericobeasto wrote:

Can anyone tell me about kodas faults? And if he has any good features..Im never going to show him. Im just curiou.. Excuse the dirt on him he was about to get a bath when i took these pix. He found a mud puddle at the park lol..

I like his tail (tailset I think is a bit high, though) and coat.  I also like his head/ear set.  He's down in his pasterns it looks like - but it might be the picture?  Something about the picture to me makes him look not balanced but it is more likely the way he is standing and when the picture was taken opposed to him actually.  It also looks like he has a shortish neck.

So many variables depend on how the picture is taken and the exact moment that the picture is taken and of equal importance is how the dog is stacked so it's hard for any of us to effectively evaluate any dogs from pictures.

Please remember I'm not trying to be mean when I evaluate and I am definitely not an expert and am still learning.  Lani and Megan would have much better grounds to stand on for an evaluation as they have more experience.

I would agree with most of what Ceara has pointed out already, tailset is too high, he is cow hocked in the rear, down on the pasturns, the layback of the shoulders is too shallow, moderate chest, short neck. He does have a nice length of loin, a nice topline, nice headpiece, and appears to have a nice appropriate coat-

Ashley&Kaia wrote:

Can someone take a look at Kaia...just curious how she looks to others as I'm a little biased!

She appears to be high in the rear causing a swayback topline, slightly cow hocked in the rear, layback of her shoulders is too steep.  I do like her headpiece though her ears in this pic do look oversized for her head her profile is nice though, nice moderate bone, a decent length of loin, and a nice coat.

Thank you both soo much! I completly understand your not being mean.. That is exactly what i wanted honestly! Thanks soo much!! I dont understand a lot of terminology you use for conformation cause im not real familiar with it.. What does cow hocked in rear, pasturns, and length of loin? Again thank you guys soo much!!

Fig. 3 is "cow hocked"


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