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Titus&Lycan Teenager
Join date : 2012-06-26 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:56 am | |
| Is TOTW or Canidae better? Canidae also has grain free options and all life stage. I need to feed ALS because my 14 month old husky wants to eat the same food as my 2 month old malamute.
http://www.tasteofthewildpetfood.com/products/ http://www.canidae.com.au/collection/view/38/39/34/35
Canidae is no longer manufactured by Diamond from what I heard. But TOTW is. I'm starting TOTW with the kids tonight and see how it goes. But I don't really want to risk another recall of the food as my malamute is really sensitive with food. Can't take any grain. Though they assured me that the TOTW supplied to Australia is from the CA plant not the SC plant, to be honest I'm a little skeptic about it.
Does anyone has some experience on these food?
Plz Note; Orijen, Acana and Wellness Core is not a choice as we don't get in in Australia. |
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Balonsmom Senior
Join date : 2012-05-02 Location : MD
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:34 am | |
| a lot of people on here still feed TOTW, I don't know about Canidae. I tried it with my greyhounds years ago and they wouldn't touch it. |
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blueeyedghost Maverick
Join date : 2011-07-01 Location : Denver, CO
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:49 am | |
| The Diamond recall was more over the risk of human contamination than anything. Salmonella really isn't going to hurt dogs, if it did no one would feed raw. We are still feeding it in our house, and we never had any issues. Have you thought about trying to get samples of Canidae to see how your dogs will do on it? That's one thing at least TOTW is good for, I emailed them and had 4 sample bags within a few days. Try different formulas too. The High Prairie formula gave our dog horrible gas but she's great on Pacific Stream. _________________ Shadow's Blog Canine Hydrocephalus Support on Facebook "Being the parent of a special-needs pet means living your life constantly poised on the edge of a double-edged sword. On the one hand, you become a fierce defender of the ways in which your little one is perfectly ordinary — all the things he or she can do that are just like what everybody else does. And yet, you never lose sight of how absolutely extraordinary that very ordinariness is, how difficult, remarkable and rewarding that fight to be 'just like everybody else' has been." -Gwen Cooper, "Homer's Odyssey" Shadow - 03/01/2013 - 10/02/2014 |
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mbarnard0429 Senior
Join date : 2011-08-07 Location : Michigan
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:55 am | |
| I'm gonna lean towards TOTW, I'm not a huge fan of Canidae. We stopped feeding TOTW because I'm a worry wart, but it is a great food. We really like the Blue Buffalo Wilderness Salmon and its rated 6/6 on dog food analysis and 5/5 on dog food advisor. Plus, it's easy for us to get. But, when we were feeding TOTW we fed Sierra mountain the most. The pups loved the lamb.
I have a hard time feeding fish if I don't where its coming from because a lot of fish in dog foods can have ethoxyquin in it and they aren't required to list it in the ingredients. Just do your research and feed what works for the pups.
If you can do Freeze Dried give it a try, I haven't met a dog yet who doesn't like some kind of Grandma Lucys! |
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Huskyluv Resident Nutritional Bookworm
Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Huntsville, AL
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:37 pm | |
| Both are decent, between the two I would opt for TOTW since it's grain free while Canidae ALS is not. _________________ |
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hypers987 Senior
Join date : 2011-08-25 Location : Santa Cruz, California
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:04 pm | |
| - Huskyluv wrote:
- Both are decent, between the two I would opt for TOTW since it's grain free while Canidae ALS is not.
Canidae PureSky, PureLand, PureElements, and PureSea are ALS. If you were going to go with Canidae I'd go with PureElements or PureSea, higher meat content, but that's just a personally preference. |
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Huskyluv Resident Nutritional Bookworm
Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Huntsville, AL
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:27 pm | |
| - hypers987 wrote:
- Canidae PureSky, PureLand, PureElements, and PureSea are ALS. If you were going to go with Canidae I'd go with PureElements or PureSea, higher meat content, but that's just a personally preference.
Thanks for correcting me Brooke, I was not aware of those. _________________ |
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HarlosHealthyPets Puppy
Join date : 2012-05-01 Location : Hollywood, FL
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:05 pm | |
| FYI, some Canidae is made in the Diamond plant as are other foods not owned by Diamond (that was the issue with the recall affecting so many brands...some not owned by Diamond...all made in the same plant). |
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Titus&Lycan Teenager
Join date : 2012-06-26 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:49 pm | |
| I made a comparison chart between TOTW and Canidae with their first 5 ingredients. Canidae Pure Sky 32% Protein 16% Fat Duck Turkey Meal Sweet Potatoes Peas Potatoe Canidae Pure Land 25% Protein 15% Fat Bison Lamb Meal Sweet Potatoes Peas Potatoes Canidae Pure Sea 40% Protein 20% Fat CA:P=1.3:1 Salmon Meal Potatoes Potatoe OceanFish Meal Canola Oil 498 kcal/cup Canidae Pure Elements 34% Protein 18% Fat CA:P=1.3:1 Chicken Meal Turkey Meal Lamb Potatoes Peas 498 kcal/cup
TOTW Wetlands 32% Protein 18% Fat CA:P=1.5:1 Duck Duck Meal Chicken Meal Egg Product Sweet Potatoes 375 kcal/cup
TOTW High Prairie 32% Protein 18% Protein CA:P=1.5:1 Bison Lamb Meal Chicken Meal Egg Products Sweet Potatoes 370 kcal/cup
TOTW Pacific Stream 25% Protein 15% Fat CA:P=1.7:1 Salmon OceanFish Meal Sweet Potatoes Potatoes Canola Oil 360 kcal/cup
TOTW Sierra Mountain 25% Protein 15% Fat CA:P=1.6:1 Lamb Lamb Meal Sweet Potatoes Potatoes Peas 338 kcal/cup
Apparently TOTW has more meat content than Canidae. I have to keep an eye on feeding Pacific Stream and Sierra Mountain as the CA:P ratio is too high for a 2 month old Malamute. For my 14 month old husky, that's fine I guess. Also, the pups seem to like TOTW more. Guess I'm sticking with it. |
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mbarnard0429 Senior
Join date : 2011-08-07 Location : Michigan
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:51 pm | |
| Can you get Blue Wilderness? The CA:P is less than TOTW |
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Titus&Lycan Teenager
Join date : 2012-06-26 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:17 pm | |
| Unfortunately we don't get Blue Wilderness, Acana, Orijen or Wellness Core in Australia. We used to get Orijen. But because of the irradiation treatment that is required on some dog food before entering Australia, the quality of Orijen changed, causing sickness in cats and they stopped supplying to Australia. TOTW did not go through the irradiation treatment. |
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paleobones Teenager
Join date : 2012-01-11 Location : Illinois
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:35 pm | |
| Raven is on TOTW High Prairie and is doing great, no gas With this crazy heat she is eating a lot less though. |
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Huskyluv Resident Nutritional Bookworm
Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Huntsville, AL
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:02 am | |
| - mheath0429 wrote:
- Can you get Blue Wilderness? The CA:P is less than TOTW
I'm assuming that the OP's 2 month old Malamute will be on whatever food is chosen and a higher Ca:P ratio is actually better for large breed puppies. _________________ |
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Titus&Lycan Teenager
Join date : 2012-06-26 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:09 am | |
| I read somewhere in this forum that the acceptable CA:P ratio for large breed puppies are 1.5:1. So I can do all four flavours of TOTW with the exception of feeding less Pacific Stream until he gets a little older or he might end up with bone disorder or something like that. Both parents were tested for hip dysplasia so I wouldn't be too concern with that. First Malamute!! Gotta be careful with that. |
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norbreedslove Senior
Join date : 2012-02-24 Location : Denver Colorado
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:09 am | |
| maggie eats totw. It is the only food she doesn't have a protest against. my parents feed canidae to their dogs. they love it a lot. I prefer to feed totw but sometimes I have given maggie canidae. You must be new, yay another malamute owner! |
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Huskyluv Resident Nutritional Bookworm
Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Huntsville, AL
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:51 pm | |
| - Titus&Lycan wrote:
- I read somewhere in this forum that the acceptable CA:P ratio for large breed puppies are 1.5:1.
That is correct and I believe I was the first person on this forum to even divulge in the subject. The point of my previous post, however, was the that you don't need to be aiming for lower Ca:P ratios in general. I wouldn't freak out if the levels were just a tad over is all. _________________ |
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Titus&Lycan Teenager
Join date : 2012-06-26 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:49 pm | |
| Right I joined the forum a few days ago. I'll stick with TOTW for the moment until I move to Malaysia in January'13. I checked!! They have Acana, Orijen, Wellness Core etc there |
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TooManyHuskies ...is a fool
Join date : 2012-06-02
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:46 am | |
| - Titus&Lycan wrote:
- Is TOTW or Canidae better? Canidae also has grain free options and all life stage. I need to feed ALS because my 14 month old husky wants to eat the same food as my 2 month old malamute.
http://www.tasteofthewildpetfood.com/products/ http://www.canidae.com.au/collection/view/38/39/34/35
Canidae is no longer manufactured by Diamond from what I heard. But TOTW is. I'm starting TOTW with the kids tonight and see how it goes. But I don't really want to risk another recall of the food as my malamute is really sensitive with food. Can't take any grain. Though they assured me that the TOTW supplied to Australia is from the CA plant not the SC plant, to be honest I'm a little skeptic about it.
Does anyone has some experience on these food?
Plz Note; Orijen, Acana and Wellness Core is not a choice as we don't get in in Australia. Your information on where Canidae is made is incorrect. Yes the company bought a plant in Texas but it will only produce a very small portion of the food. The GF foods will still be made by Diamond and the rest by a combination of Diamond, American Nutrition (junk) and the Canidae plant. You would be better off trying Earthborn. TOTW is crap. Midwestern Pet Foods is a much better company and I know Pro Pac is very popular in Australia so Earthborn should be easy to get. |
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SaraB Rescue Subject Moderator
Join date : 2010-09-09 Location : Deltona, FL
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:25 pm | |
| ^ So close to being a civilized post until you just had to throw in "TOTW is crap." with nothing to back it up. You're getting better! _________________ -Sara |
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TooManyHuskies ...is a fool
Join date : 2012-06-02
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:29 pm | |
| You can't trust anything made by Diamond. Nothing. The only reason why TOTW is popular is because it is a cheap grain free food. People believe grain foods are superior so people are naturally attracted to a "bargain".
I stand by what i said.
A better value GF food is either Victor or Hi-Tek, but a high protein, high fat food with whole grains is superior. |
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Koda Ms. Amicable
Join date : 2009-05-20 Location : Glenville, NY
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:43 pm | |
| - SaraB wrote:
- ^ So close to being a civilized post until you just had to throw in "TOTW is crap." with nothing to back it up. You're getting better!
Quoted for truth. TooManyHuskies... we would love your input more if you used more facts to back up your posts and expressed them in a mature and civilized manner. We are starting to crack down on immaturity here and I would hate to have your opinion and expertise get squashed in the process because you can't formulate a respectful and informative post. _________________ www.itsahuskything.com It's a husky thing... you wouldn't understand. |
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mbarnard0429 Senior
Join date : 2011-08-07 Location : Michigan
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:53 pm | |
| - TooManyHuskies wrote:
- You can't trust anything made by Diamond. Nothing. The only reason why TOTW is popular is because it is a cheap grain free food. People believe grain foods are superior so people are naturally attracted to a "bargain".
I stand by what i said.
A better value GF food is either Victor or Hi-Tek, but a high protein, high fat food with whole grains is superior. Oddly enough, you joined this forum and your first post was about a "bargain" food which based on ingredient analysis was "crap" You are a hypocrite dear. |
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Titus&Lycan Teenager
Join date : 2012-06-26 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Re: TOTW ALS or Canidae ALS Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:45 am | |
| I was feeding them Earthborn Primitive Natural and Coastal Catch previously. But they seem to like TOTW more. Anyway, when I compare both products, TOTW has a higher meat content than Earthoborn. Also, I feed them grain free food because one of my furkids is grain sensitive. Regarding the price, Earthborn and TOTW are almost the same for big packs. But I only buy the medium packs even though the price is more expensive because I want to keep the food more fresh. I bought my dog food from this website www.naturalpetstore.com.au/ You can take a look at the price. If we have Acana or Orijen in Australia, I will definitely go for those. What's more than to see my furkids eat better? |
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