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cosmothunder
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PostSubject: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 10:48 pm

What's the best way to deal with this? She'll show her teeth if I get too close when she is eating or sometimes with chew toys. I've the whole trading thing. It works but if I get close she doesn't like that. I've tried tapping the snout and even a smack on the face but she'll still do it. Just not right after the correction. Should I just let this be? Is this her way of saying leave me alone and if I do does that mean I'm not in charge?
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:00 pm

have you tried a semi-stern "hey, stop that" and just be matter of fact about it?
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:02 pm

I'll try that again but it never works
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:16 pm

Are you nervous at all when she does this? You need to be relaxed she will pick up any anxiety you may have. You need to make it a non-issue. Will take time.
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:17 pm

I don't know why she is pissed off. I'm dad. I'm always good to her
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:21 pm

Hmmm. There is such a fine line when trying to train a Siberian. The thing is that you need to assert yourself as the boss without crossing into abusive territory. I would say it is best not to tap her snout and absolutely avoid smacking her, whether it is on the face, or elsewhere. That tactic is totally going to backfire on you.

Keep working on the trading in calm circumstances, and try to puppy-proof the best you can to prevent these situations, but I understand that sometimes stuff happens and they will occasionally get a hold of something they shouldn't have and you need to spring into action. In this case, I would get her attention by saying her name, followed by a calm "no, leave it" and make it obvious that you mean business and are not afraid of her, but do not be threatening toward her either. My trainer says to never back away like you are scared when they act this way, but to be very matter of fact and calm, yet still approach them and remove the item. If she bites you, again, tell her no, but do not physically punish her.

In the meantime, lots of training, treats, games, and hard work is in order. You really need to decondition her away from this behavior by working with the trade-game, and lots of calm, consistent handling. We are going through this issue with Phoenix and I try to pet her all over when she has a toy, especially her ribs, because she knows this is where we generally pick her up when we want to remove her from the cat food or whatever, and this is when she gets a little nutsy. Since we have been working with her, she is getting a lot better with this issue, but she still has her moments. As I understand it, this is an ongoing issue you will need to work on consistently for the life of your dog. It is not going to go away, but you can work with her to help her get better with this issue. Ultimately, she needs to associate having an item taken as a positive experience, rather than a negative one.

I will post a link with more info:

http://www.dogstardaily.com/blogs/puppy-behavior-emergency-resource-guarding

Definitely spend some time on this site if you haven't already and consider getting a trainer to assist you on working with your girl in a positive manner.

Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:27 pm

She doesn't do anything but look at me when I take things away. I can take anything without issue. If I get my face in her face that's when the issue of the teeth arrive. I've taken the bone and other chew toy away literally 20 Times in the last minute in between typing this. Not one issue. It's when I get in her face but is that okay? Should I let her do that?
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:35 pm

Oh, well, I would avoid getting in her face. If you can take a toy or item without issue, that's great. I think dogs deserve some personal space and I don't think respecting that space means we are not the boss. To the contrary, in fact. I think a leader needs to respect those that they lead in order to earn their respect. From what you have described, clearly, she knows you are in charge and is cool with that. I would say to continue to work on the good aspects of your person/dog relationship and keep all of your interactions very positive. Avoid the physical reprimands for sure. That is how way too many huskies end up becoming overly aggressive and surrendered to rescues -- if they are lucky. Too many end up getting put down because of this issue, which is totally avoidable.
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:41 pm

Okay so don't get in her face ever I can deal with that, I thought I was supposed to be able to do that but I'll leave that alone. God damnit this is hard work, I always feel like I do the wrong thing
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySat Dec 06, 2014 11:59 pm

Yeah, definitely giver her that space. I know how you feel, Tony. It is harder than I ever expected. You are trying so hard, though, and that is admirable. I'm sure all of the hard work will be so worth it in the long run. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: showing teeth   teeth - showing teeth EmptySun Dec 07, 2014 3:23 am

Tony, being able to take something away from her, so you know you can in a "bad" situation, like if she caught a mouse and you don't want her to eat it, is good practice, and if she does this with out issue, then you've done your training right. Now try and do a role reversal for a sec, say you are eating, how do you react to her if she's in your face, probably in a not so happy manner. As Carrie said, giving her space for the appropriate action, i.e. eating her food is a good thing. We all need space. Something not as intrusive that you can practice with Bandit is to make her sit and wait for her bowl to be placed down for her meal. Make her wait for a few seconds, then tell her to get it, or whatever command you want to use, at her first bite pat her side say good girl and walk away and let her eat. You still have the interaction you want to continue with a well mannered dog, you praise her for accepting your presence without showing teeth or growling, and then walk away to give her her space.

Training can be frustrating at times, but don't let it get to you, eventually all this training will result in a well mannered, respectful, loving companion. Your best friend. Approaching things in a positive manner, will produce a positive, happy dog.

ETA: Miya is 2 years old and I still do the food bowl training, as Carrie also said it is an ongoing process. So every night I tell her to wait for her food, then get it, first bite I pat her side and tell her good girl, then I walk away so she can enjoy her food and space.
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